![]() ![]() What you are wrong about is your take on what discussion is. Question is, where do we draw a line between what's subjective and what's objective? How am I supposed to talk with people about things when all I'm allowed to use are objective meanings of said "things"? I can't imagine any better and more neutral way to set the line. I see what you meant with quotes but that's exactly the point - if you want treat it subjectively the whole discussion is entirely pointless from beginning because it will mean different thing for everyone and only generate silly arguments like "Haha, you think THIS is hardcore? What convent are you from?". That is literal meaning of the terms used in "official channels" by which Subverse surely contains hardcore scenes whether you consider it as such or not.
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